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Post by WedgePrower on Sept 4, 2003 22:32:14 GMT -5
i don't believe in god because if there is a god...there would be no such thing as war cuz if there was a war god would end it
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Bailey
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Post by Bailey on Sept 5, 2003 10:25:17 GMT -5
Ahem, ALL religions have changed with the times. And by the way, humans naturally want to kill eachother and hate eachother collectively. The majority of people see murder as completely unacceptable unless the circumstances 'justify' it. Such as a person deserves to die because of their actions or you are so angry with someone you feel like killing them but actually wont, however it felt right at the time. What I am trying to say is that if there is a god, it would not interfere with war as this is a natural practice of human beings, god is meant to represent choice and not control. If this were so we would only be capable of doing 'good' things, but instead gods so-called laws are written down with the option of obeying them or ignoring them layed out in front of you.
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darksorcererRM
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Post by darksorcererRM on Sept 5, 2003 21:21:25 GMT -5
saphirefox - humans creating god in the poll means humans thinking up an imaginary god.
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Post by AshurA on Sept 6, 2003 0:55:00 GMT -5
OKAY HOLD IT! someone better delete this topic because it is pointless, why would anyone really care about someone elses religious beliefs and why would anyone question whether or whether not there is a God, some people may be offended by this topic and that could screw up the board because they would quit and tell others to quit or not to join.
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Post by Draco on Sept 6, 2003 5:36:06 GMT -5
How would humans create god? I thought God created humans, anyway, I do believe in god, that way, there is a heaven! [ GOD spelled backwards is DOG, no wonder they call them man's best friend!] That is true about heaven...maybe i should beleive in God so when I fly, I can try to reach the highest of all the heavens! Sorry had to say it. Xfox is right about how the true bible has not changed over time. To bad we do not know which one that is any more.
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Post by Bailey on Sept 7, 2003 10:09:47 GMT -5
Hehe, true. And for goodness sake will people stop bloody posting things like "this topic is pointless". All the damn topics are pointless. This is an interesting topic, so dont try and screw it, hehe. People will always believe what they want to but I wish that the majority of people were not mindless sheep.
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Post by hypersonic on Sept 13, 2003 21:26:20 GMT -5
i dont really get wht ur tryin to say
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Post by Bailey on Sept 16, 2003 5:51:48 GMT -5
Im saying that people are easily led astray in terms of their beliefs, if people are told something by a certain group (news broadcasts for example) they have a tendancy to blindly accept things. Most people cannot be bothered to think about things atall, plainly because they dont care or dont understand.
If you want a good example just look at September 11th, misguided fools took their own lives and thousands of others to make a point, a point that was drilled into them by someone else. Im not agreeing that its Osama tho as I dont believe any excuses or explanations that government can come up with, they are usually crap.
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Post by Draco on Sept 16, 2003 9:28:33 GMT -5
That sounds like religion to me. Most children have it forced on them when they are young. It isn't till they understand what was forced on them that they really understand, but it is hard to pull away from something that is forced on you at a young age. (Confused yet? I am ) I think that is why I am not a believer at all, my parents didn't force it on me so I got to choose if I do or not
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Sept 18, 2003 18:43:38 GMT -5
look im new here but you should never start a convo like this unless you want some serious arguments to go on between atheists christians and jahovas witnesses and other religions
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Sept 18, 2003 18:46:18 GMT -5
look im new here but you should never start a convo like this unless you want some serious arguments to go on between atheists christians and jahovas witnesses and other religions and i know atheism is not a religion but it is a belief.beliefs can ussually be called religions.so dont jump on me about that like most atheists do
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Post by DigiTails on Sept 19, 2003 20:05:25 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]serious arguments eh? how bout we call em serious dicussions without petty name calling, when people start the insults then its an arguement.[/glow]
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Post by Tails on Sept 19, 2003 20:40:32 GMT -5
Tails/Ivy Thorns.... please stop double-posting. To modify a post if you want to add to it, click the modift button above the post you widh to edit.
Okay, back on topic.... This isn't pointless. It was created to discuss one's beliefs, not necessarily one's religion. And who cares if we affend anyone...... oh rite.
Wait, now I'm really gonna get on topic. Um, children may be brought up to believe in a certain religion, but I feel each person should choose their own beliefs. Yes, the human race is an odd one. We often place blind or excessive devotion into what we see and hear. We believe in what we see. But there is more than meets the eye. Seeing isn't always believeing..... to me, that is. What did that have to do with god? Hmmm.... I dunno.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Sept 19, 2003 21:36:56 GMT -5
dude......what if they dont want some other belief to mess up their own?what if they dont want to change religions and someone elses makes them doubt their own?these are qualified as arguments there have been several posts like this in other forums and i lost like 5 friends in each because of it.......thats why these should not be started.most of the time people do this just to see how much people argue
and so you dont gripe to me about double posting again...do not start these unless you want to start arguments.and also these are ussually for making crap hit the fan....
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Post by Bailey on Sept 22, 2003 10:56:21 GMT -5
That depends on the maturity of the people on the board, arguments will not start if there are intelligent and mature people present. I would never argue with someone about their beliefs. The people who take offence at silly individuals who write abuse are just as daft in my opinion. Boards are available for discussions, if you cant freely discuss things for fear of some bugger messing things up theres a real problem. Just ignore people who start mouthing off and if your the type of person who does it you are rediculous. This was not a statement aimed at anybody in particular, it is aimed at anybody who reads it, I am not labelling any specific people.
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Post by Tails on Sept 22, 2003 15:35:49 GMT -5
Very true. And I'm not starting an argument, I'm trying to correct a problem. Double posting isn't necessary, it is simply a technique to make your post count go up. Arguments can spawn from any topic on any forum. Now a days, people fight over the most trivial things.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Sept 22, 2003 15:40:29 GMT -5
That depends on the maturity of the people on the board, arguments will not start if there are intelligent and mature people present. I would never argue with someone about their beliefs. The people who take offence at silly individuals who write abuse are just as daft in my opinion. Boards are available for discussions, if you cant freely discuss things for fear of some bugger messing things up theres a real problem. Just ignore people who start mouthing off and if your the type of person who does it you are rediculous. This was not a statement aimed at anybody in particular, it is aimed at anybody who reads it, I am not labelling any specific people. there is no maturity...its a human CONCEPT
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Post by Tails on Sept 23, 2003 16:02:35 GMT -5
Well, alot of people here (I'm not pointing the finger) haven't learned the concept yet. Age doesn't matter necessarily, it's the personality and attitude that does. I'm only 15 years old, I'll be 16 in October, and comapred to somem members, that is young. Compared to others, that is old. But despite my age, I act mature. I enjoy disscussions like these. I don't run into arguments with other people like me. I often get in fights with sonic noobs that claim to know all, but don't..... but that's it!
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Post by DigiTails on Sept 23, 2003 18:15:37 GMT -5
Well, alot of people here (I'm not pointing the finger) haven't learned the concept yet. Age doesn't matter necessarily, it's the personality and attitude that does. I'm only 15 years old, I'll be 16 in October, and comapred to somem members, that is young. Compared to others, that is old. But despite my age, I act mature. I enjoy disscussions like these. I don't run into arguments with other people like me. I often get in fights with sonic noobs that claim to know all, but don't..... but that's it! [glow=purple,2,300]same goes with parents dont really matter youre age so long as u act mature if u act very mature they r probably bound to give u more lease than like a unmature freak, no one on these boards well maybe not, but hey im talkin about somethin way off of this topic, but rnt we all?[/glow]
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Sept 23, 2003 21:02:08 GMT -5
Well, alot of people here (I'm not pointing the finger) haven't learned the concept yet. Age doesn't matter necessarily, it's the personality and attitude that does. I'm only 15 years old, I'll be 16 in October, and comapred to somem members, that is young. Compared to others, that is old. But despite my age, I act mature. I enjoy disscussions like these. I don't run into arguments with other people like me. I often get in fights with sonic noobs that claim to know all, but don't..... but that's it! your not very mature if you go around saying your mature......it makes you sound immature..and matureity is a thing that basically when you say your mature.you say "im better than you"
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Post by Bailey on Sept 27, 2003 3:50:12 GMT -5
Haha, true, but everything we have in society today, all our ideals and thoughts are human concepts. This fact however does not mean the point doesnt exist, you know well what maturity is mate so express it.
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Post by Tails24M on Oct 3, 2003 22:27:17 GMT -5
well i know that i probably read this a bit late, but htats beacause i have been busy. but....to leap back onto the topic, i must say that idont believe in any religions..i am atheist. i dontknow, i use to be catholic and also i have always question my religion. i am fastinated by others, ones that believe in equality and logic. overall, i havent found a religion that suits me and i dont feel likei need ot be religious to know from right and wrong and to b a good person. i also dont like people that are very close minded on this topic and thats that.i dont go around trying ot make people believe in what i do, everyone has the right to get into whtever they like. and this is all that i had to say.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Oct 3, 2003 23:35:10 GMT -5
i dont mean to offend any catholics but the catholic section is one of the most falsified.....im not saying its all fake im saying that like 30% of it is fake.....they teach you to fear sinning yet you cannot go your whole life without sinning....just live your life out how you want but dont do anything to evil such as robbing murdering or whatever else....the only things about the pentecostals that are faked is the dress crap...and the ritual where you run around the church screaming
mormons...mormons arent even really a religion theyre more like a cult...and baptists.....i dunno whats faked about them except for the story of adam and eve
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Post by Kyran on Oct 5, 2003 5:22:35 GMT -5
How do you know the story of Adam and Eve is fake?
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Oct 5, 2003 15:08:52 GMT -5
no matter how you look at it it doesnt fit into history at all...theres a bunch of it that doesnt make sense
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Post by Jay6 on Oct 5, 2003 16:05:45 GMT -5
well, OF COURSE I BELIEVE IN GOD! the bible, the.......... *snore*
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Post by Draco on Oct 5, 2003 16:39:57 GMT -5
well, OF COURSE I BELIEVE IN GOD! the bible, the.......... *snore* LMAO!
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Post by Kyran on Oct 6, 2003 19:07:36 GMT -5
Sleep is a gift from God, thats why he gave us the Bible. Also he gave us the Bible to remind us of what happend, but sleep is good.
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Post by DigiTails on Oct 6, 2003 19:26:11 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]sleep is very good[/glow]
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Post by Draco on Oct 6, 2003 20:23:09 GMT -5
Sleep is good and that is why they invited schools!
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