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Post by DigiTails on Oct 6, 2003 20:26:40 GMT -5
Sleep is good and that is why they invited schools! [glow=purple,2,300]i so wish that is why[/glow]
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Post by Jay6 on Oct 7, 2003 23:01:21 GMT -5
ya, sleep is good... i slept a few hours when i got back from school. and where was i...? oh ya, i also believe in Jesus, the storys in the bible... *snore* *wakes up* remind me not to sleep when i'm typing!
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Oct 8, 2003 7:04:00 GMT -5
sleep is when your body reproduces energy and iron....however if you can get a substitute for energy and iron you can stay up for a long time however....you need to dream,dreams are what record your memories ... ive stayed up for three days before but i did get a substitute for the iron and energy....i ate some food and had gotten some caffiene......caffiene isnt as good as the real energy but it does work
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Post by DigiTails on Oct 10, 2003 17:36:12 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]how nice for u, sleep is why there are weekends, school starts to darn early so do my fav shows. Stupid School. Stupid TV companies[/glow]
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Post by IrisFaust on Mar 2, 2004 13:55:30 GMT -5
whoa, a little of topic , but anyway, there are so many religions , all claim to be the right one, all are flawed in some way or another, so why bother? even if by the unlikely chance i see proof of a god, ill live how i want, bound by no rules of people who may or may not have ever existed,trying to impose their will on others down through the ages. There are already too many rules in life, and the way i see it, less rules=more fun
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Mar 2, 2004 14:36:59 GMT -5
and less rules means you become mentally sick and start skipping with logic like a short in your brain that starts small but eventually ends up big and totally screws up your life to the point where you miserable, but there is one religion that doesnt really have a flaw, only the people in that religion are flawed
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Post by IrisFaust on Mar 2, 2004 14:42:51 GMT -5
everyone has thier own ideas of whats right and wrong, im not saying there should be no rules, im just saying alot of religions have ridiculous ones. but its just an opinion, isnt that what this subject asked for?
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Mar 2, 2004 18:25:57 GMT -5
theres a set human biology standard for right and wrong, ussually when you do good and are truly good you live longer and are happier, when your bad you live shorter and end up being miserable
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Post by Megan on Mar 2, 2004 20:19:16 GMT -5
I don't believe in God. I don't know why I just don't for some reason
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Post by MilesAttacca on Mar 5, 2004 17:40:51 GMT -5
I completely believe in God (Catholic, BTW). Has anything ever happened to you or to someone you know that's completely inexplicable, perhaps something that got you out of a really sticky situation with no real harm done? That's a miracle. I think God is around, and he does help us. And besides, there's gotta be SOMEBODY "out there" looking out for us all. In this world, we all need someone to trust.
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Post by Morphed Chaos on Mar 5, 2004 20:02:25 GMT -5
I beleve in god, but don't betray him! you will be sent to the 9th level of hell if you do, and that is where the devil lives!
I saw that on a documentry on the history channel.
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Post by GreatFox on Mar 12, 2004 13:51:21 GMT -5
No. I find it extremely hard to believe that there´s a higher being that just popped out of somewhere.
However, I´m not completely bashing the idea of God. He (if He even has a gender) may very well be there, who knows? I certainly don´t. But even though I´m unsure about God´s existence, I`m still not believing in Him "just in case He exists".
I´m balancing between the line of atheism and agnostism.
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Post by tails173 on Mar 12, 2004 15:17:51 GMT -5
There is most definately a god, because there just has to be... But it is a tough decision.
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Post by Foxi4 on Mar 13, 2004 8:31:43 GMT -5
Yes, i am a beliver !!! I am not going to churches, because i don`t need a priest to talk with MY God by MY way. He helps me, he loves me and he understands my problems. He is inside of me, of all of us. when you want to, you will hear His voice. I love my God, and he loves me.
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Post by shadowfox on Mar 17, 2004 18:17:44 GMT -5
I do believe that we didnt simply evolve from apes, as apes still exist on earth. I do believe that we are the result of a higher intellect but not from a religious standpoint. Religions are hypocritical, and so are their leaders. That goes for all religions, garbage the lot of them. If you dont already know why then youll never know from me. Apart from that yes I do believe in god. By the way, I dont care if ur religious, thats fine with me but please dont winge to me about my views if you feel such an urge because I cannot be made to change my mind (that of course depends if you care what I think in the first place! lol). Ah, Satanism. Im not a Satanist but I've read about it, its the only religion I've looked into which actually has a valid purpose and most of it makes sense. Its more to do with personal satisfaction and pleasure than Satan, well thats my veiw anyway. THIS is the thing I hate about TCT and Catholics. They believe that THEY control the bible and they don't. They try to make money off of it and EVERYONE gets blamed. I am a Christian and it is NOT the same as a Catholic. If I pray, Im gunna pray to God and Jesus, not there St. Friends. And Evolution is a CROCK! ITS A RELIGON! Belief in evolution is a remarkable phenomenon. It is a belief passionately defended by the scientific establishment, despite the lack of any observable scientific evidence for macroevolution (that is, evolution from one distinct kind of organism into another). This odd situation is briefly documented here by citing recent statements from leading evolutionists admitting their lack of proof. These statements inadvertently show that evolution on any significant scale does not occur at present, and never happened in the past. YOU WANT MORE EVIDENCE? AND YOU LIKE TO READ? go here www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-330.htm
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Post by shadowfox on Mar 17, 2004 18:20:24 GMT -5
No. I find it extremely hard to believe that there´s a higher being that just popped out of somewhere. However, I´m not completely bashing the idea of God. He (if He even has a gender) may very well be there, who knows? I certainly don´t. But even though I´m unsure about God´s existence, I`m still not believing in Him "just in case He exists". I´m balancing between the line of atheism and agnostism. First of all, I think that its MUCH safer to be Agnostic, and popped out of nowhere, I have argued this myself very much. I can imagine forever in the future, but always existing is hard to comprehend. So I look at it this way: God Speaking: "I am that is." Its simple; he just is.
Yes, i am a beliver !!! I am not going to churches, because i don`t need a priest to talk with MY God by MY way. He helps me, he loves me and he understands my problems. He is inside of me, of all of us. when you want to, you will hear His voice. I love my God, and he loves me. PERFECT EXAMPLE!
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Post by wandering jinchuuriki on Mar 23, 2004 12:23:53 GMT -5
I'm Seventh-Day-Adventist and all I have to is that though I strongly disagree with alot of other religion (including athiests) I was raised to respect people from all other religions(including ahtiests) and I also respect the privilages and non-privilages. EXAMPLE: My friend Ben is a Bhuddist and not knowing this I asked if he would like to pray with me, he said no and explained,so I had to respect that he doesn't believe in prayer to God, and not bug him about it.P.S.:My Church doesn't believe in priests to pray to God for you. You can Talk directly to God.AIM Me if you want some proof of the stories of the bible.
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Post by Kogen on Mar 23, 2004 20:26:13 GMT -5
I don't belive in any sort of god what so ever and I find religon to be pointless. Humans created the "Bible" and made up everything in it, we evolved from monkeys or whatever not from magic dirt. All religon does is cause wars and figthing. If you don't belive me look on the news right now. And for example, if everything in the Bible is true then why isn't everything in the Quran true? Its all just a bunch of crap to me.
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Post by Chris The Hedgehog on Mar 24, 2004 19:49:51 GMT -5
I believe in god and yes I'm a Christian ;D
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Post by wandering jinchuuriki on Mar 25, 2004 11:42:12 GMT -5
I don't belive in any sort of god what so ever and I find religon to be pointless. Humans created the "Bible" and made up everything in it, we evolved from monkeys or whatever not from magic dirt. All religon does is cause wars and figthing. If you don't belive me look on the news right now. And for example, if everything in the Bible is true then why isn't everything in the Quran true? Its all just a bunch of crap to me. there is major proof of the Bible being true if you want any proof, or have any questions just I.M. me
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Mar 27, 2004 0:45:19 GMT -5
There is most definately a god, because there just has to be... But it is a tough decision. there is no possible reason for the universe existing other than god, its not possible at all in anyway, a void of nothingness just does not turn into an endless thing filled with planets in so high a number that numbers do not go that high(just an expression, but it goes like 50 tmies higher than 999 trillion, and trillion is the highest set of numbers i think)....anyway this debate is pointless like all debates are, neither side will win, its just one of those pointless conflicting things which will never be agreed on by both sides, thats all there is to it
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Post by IrisFaust on Mar 30, 2004 15:03:19 GMT -5
Maybe there is a god, but delving into that question leads to which religion is correct,most would side with the many forms of christianity,but there where many religions before christ was even born, 3 that i know of still in practice by larger groups.Christianity was just spread more, because people like to belive in eternal happiness,especially in times of weakness like when someone loses a loved one( they tried to force thier ideas on me at my little sisters funeral)I for one wouldnt want to live in a place like the christian heaven where all i felt is happiness, id feel stripped of my humanity.There is beauty in all emotions, extreme anguish, or extreme joy. if thats everyones idea of heaven, then heaven is available on earth, its called being sedated.Religion is a killer of individuality , and its worst enemy. This thread really should disappear.Its irritating.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Mar 30, 2004 20:46:33 GMT -5
you wouldnt be stripped of your humanity, youd just look at things from outside an earthly perspective, of course i guess you cant imagine looking at things from an outside perspective like most people out there(i have not met one person whos good at looking at things from anothers perspective, and with religions its not just which's oldest is the most true, and iris, there are different sections of christianity, some are more true than others i guess you could say, and would you quit saying theyre forceing it on you? im sick and tired of you people calling an invitation "forceing upon". there are somewhat christian cults that try and force it upon you, but they arent really a part of christianity
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Post by IrisFaust on Mar 31, 2004 12:47:59 GMT -5
you wouldnt be stripped of your humanity, youd just look at things from outside an earthly perspective, of course i guess you cant imagine looking at things from an outside perspective like most people out there(i have not met one person whos good at looking at things from anothers perspective, and with religions its not just which's oldest is the most true, and iris, there are different sections of christianity, some are more true than others i guess you could say, and would you quit saying theyre forceing it on you? im sick and tired of you people calling an invitation "forceing upon". there are somewhat christian cults that try and force it upon you, but they arent really a part of christianity What makes you so sure an "outside earthly perspective" exists? That is someones fantasy. Because no one has ever come back and said what the other side was like with absolute proof that they werent nuts. Christanity of all kinds has the same basic principles , it just that each denomination has different spins on it. Christian cults? The only differance between a religion and a cult is that religions have more popular ideas , and thus are more excpeted by the mainstream. In short religions and cults arent that different. Just like when some thing on the Internet has small but noticeable following, its called a cult following. Cults are just small religions that are a minority so they arent as widely excepted. Im just especially irritated with christian religions because ive been surronded by them the longest.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Mar 31, 2004 14:30:01 GMT -5
then shutup and quit griping about em, your really beginning to iritate me, your saying christians force their beliefs upon you? look at you, your over here forceing your beliefs upon christians about how theyre so wrong and about how theyre iritating and such, (this is why i dont like these threads, all they do is tick people off and make enemies)
(omg, what the hell am i doing here arguing with people like iris...damn i must be going insane or something...i need more sunlight!)
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Post by Bailey on Mar 31, 2004 14:49:54 GMT -5
The ony way to be in discussions like this is to logically and calmly argue your point, once you start getting personally or emotionally involved you dont think straight and you wind up criticising other people. This isnt a topic for criticism, it is a topic of debate, they are very different things lol. I think the emphasis on convincing others that your veiws are correct is an unhealthy one, simply state what your opinion is without bashing other people; after all we are all on the same train but the way we are whilst aboard it is up to the individual. This is aimed at nobody in particular btw.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Apr 1, 2004 0:25:10 GMT -5
yeah your right, but if your calling this a debate, the whole point is to state how your view is true, thats the soul of a debate, all it is is a fancy name for an argument, what your speaking of is entirely different and in no way sounds like a debate, but the topic of this isnt is there a god, its do you believe in god i think, i completely lost track of what the title was called but this topic is a question, not a debate bailey
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Post by Bailey on Apr 1, 2004 8:10:13 GMT -5
The topic is indeed a question when it started off . But as all popular topics eventually do, it has changed over time. It started off as a question and now I feel it closer to a debate, perhaps a critical debate but there are still viewpoints being argued. After all it is the people who post in a topic that make it what it really is. I am a little off by using the word debate (it is not a debate due to the lack of formality), at the time I didn't think much about the definition of the word but more about the point I wanted to get across; this has caused confusion so sorry about that. What I really wanted to say is that this topic can be used to argue the existence of God and to state your own beliefs. I was only criticising the fact that some people chose to question individuals directly, which is not the way to do things . I think that people created the concept of God, of course they did, however this does not prove or disprove the existence of such an entity. I preffer to stay clear of arguing whether there is or isnt a God, simply because it is impossible as of yet to prove any argument. An interesting argument it is indeed, however it is one which runs in circles. For the record I do belive that there is a God.
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Post by DrumUltimA on Apr 4, 2004 0:27:25 GMT -5
I'm Seventh-Day-Adventist and all I have to is that though I strongly disagree with alot of other religion (including athiests) I was raised to respect people from all other religions(including ahtiests) and I also respect the privilages and non-privilages. EXAMPLE: My friend Ben is a Bhuddist and not knowing this I asked if he would like to pray with me, he said no and explained,so I had to respect that he doesn't believe in prayer to God, and not bug him about it.P.S.:My Church doesn't believe in priests to pray to God for you. You can Talk directly to God.AIM Me if you want some proof of the stories of the bible. Aw no way! A SDA! My mom is one-- well, kinda. She's not really practicing anymore. Once she started living away from her parents she kinda changed her view. Are you a vegetarian? My mom is XD. Anyway, I don't really follow any particular religion. I was never raised as one. Who knows, I might someday. I don't take to being swayed though. But if I ever feel like I need to be a christian, I will. If I feel like buddhism will do it for me, then there I go. If I decide that none of them are really right in my heart, then that's it. I don't know when I'll decide, but whatever. Who knows! And notice how the creator of this thread hasn't replied to it XD
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Post by DigiTails on Apr 4, 2004 12:29:01 GMT -5
And notice how the creator of this thread hasn't replied to it XD [glow=purple,2,300]I thinks he;s afraid of the ensuing arguements I do believe there's a god, thats why the universe is here, but believe what ya wanna believe. Aruging about the existance or non existance of god is pointless as niether can be proved. The exsistance of god relies completely on faith. Without that, I don't think he exists as god anymore, he's just another thing science proved. Kinad a paradox if you look at it.[/glow]
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