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Post by eh on Mar 8, 2005 22:58:15 GMT -5
owell at least its not the one thats exclusive to gamecube  this probably wont even have Tails in it   WHY SEGA...stupid people voted their favorite character as shadow in that poll... Gamecube and PS2 we know which platform its being developed on  Sonic Heroes all over again for the PS2 www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/08/news_6120012.html |
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Post by Marik on Mar 9, 2005 0:31:53 GMT -5
Wow Figures!!!
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Post by eh on Mar 9, 2005 0:53:34 GMT -5
Yeah i know, it has guns to I saw the video it show bullet holes going in the old games and then shadow appears, sega is going in a new direction and I ABSOLUTLEY HATE IT! My message boards are even sad |
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Post by Teepo on Mar 9, 2005 4:46:38 GMT -5
I heard about this at the fallout shelter, Shadows supossed to have a gun o.O? I personally don't like shadow too much, the reason being all sonic noobs see him as the "cool" character and start ranting about how much better he is then sonic.
EDIT: I just wached the video, the game looks ok, but with shado sarring in his own game no one will shut up about him now.
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 9, 2005 14:53:51 GMT -5
I see this is a good oppertunity for Sega. In the publics eye, they see Sonic too much, and Shadow added a darkish personality to the mix. Personally, I think that they may make this game a little more mature, to try to appeal to the teen audience. I can't get the video myself, but I think it will be worth keeping my eye on. Still, its nice seeing Sonic Team coming out with a different branch of the Sonic series. Still, Im sure that if Tails had is own game some people at a completly different place would have the same reaction as you Shady.
Hmph, personally I won't mind if Tails isn't in it. Still, ShadyTails you're over-reacting. I said the SAME THING when I first heard of Kindgom Hearts, but as I saw trailers to the game and learned more about it I grew to want the game. I love Kindgom Hearts now. I think that Sega is doing a good thing with this. I believe that it will be god for the Sonic series itself.
This is just my opinion but...
It's nice to see Sega FINALLY beginning to mature the Sonic series a little bit. I'm sick of it being meant for little kids. Sega needs to appeal the Sonic series to the older fans as well, not the little kids. I don't like the fact that every Sonic game that I have to review for a site is for kids. I really am sick of Sonic only being for kids. What about people like me? I don't like little kid games anymore. I like the games where Im challenged and can appeal to teens.
But than again, thats just my opinion.
^_^ Thanks for the info Shady, my sources will like this new info, so I can get more info myself from them.
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Post by Marik on Mar 9, 2005 17:41:55 GMT -5
Ok... so they use a character that looks EXACTLY like Sonic, same moves and everything. So it's a copy/paste idea from Sonic to Shadow. lol Figures for Sega.
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Post by Teepo on Mar 9, 2005 17:51:23 GMT -5
I've yet to see one person happy about this, but then again I thought RE4 was going to be bad, and I've never been more wrong. As for the more mature look, I've been waiting for this for a while, but sonic team could have just as easily made a more mature game with sonic as the main character, I don't hate the idea, because the game may actually be good, I just wish sonic team would stop focusing on shadow so much, and focus more on the game itself.
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Post by Tails on Mar 9, 2005 21:42:58 GMT -5
Hey everyone. I'm sure a handful of you may remember me... from way back when. I've been extremely inactive for the last many months, however, lol. I was sidetracked with other communities and such. I'm proud to say I'm still a strong Tails fan at heart. Anyway, the latest sonic-related news have inspiried me to come back and join in on the discussions. Let me first clearly state my opinion on this slightly more mature-themed move Sega is making. I think, in terms of the mass-population, this is an incredibly smart move. This Shadow project fuses the fast-paced platforming of Sonic's games with the intense shooting action of.... ehm, Sonic Adventure 2's shooting stages or Ratchet & Clank? Point of the matter is this: the general population wants this. The widely beloved world of Sonic the Hedgehog needs to show some slightly more mature themes here and there. In terms of this new direction Sega is taking, I'm a bit skeptical. Sure, this more mature-oriented direction is everything I could ask for, but it may damage the "suitable for everyone" atmosphere that Sonic once called its home. It's actually quite odd, actually. I wanted something like this to happen so badly, but I'm sort of anxious to see how things turn out. Hopefully Sonic's image won't be destroyed in the long run. One thing's for sure, in the short term, Sonic will now have a wider audience. Hmm... I'm thinking too deeply into this...! Well, all-in-all, I welcome this extreme concept. After all, it's the latest trend. Conker has a potty-mouth. Link has finally reached adulthood. Jak has gone bad. And now Shadow has a gun. Speaking of which, it blows my mind how Shadow is carrying around a gun. This is no cartoonish-sound-producing gun, my friends. This is a loaded pistol with realistic sound effects... in shadow's hand! So awesome! |
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Post by Marik on Mar 9, 2005 22:15:00 GMT -5
It's gonna be like Starfox Assault when its the shooting, one little shot will rip apart a machine even though its a little damn pistol. It'll be Sonic Heroes when its running, pretty simple and plain. This game will make Heroes look good, oh crap..... |
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Post by eh on Mar 9, 2005 22:18:24 GMT -5
It's gonna be like Starfox Assault when its the shooting, one little shot will rip apart a machine even though its a little damn pistol. It'll be Sonic Heroes when its running, pretty simple and plain. This game will make Heroes look good, oh crap..... Yeah, and we thought heroes was bad, i dont care if its bad I will own heroes forever  |
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Post by E-109 Omega on Mar 10, 2005 15:28:04 GMT -5
Personally, I think this is going to be an interesting new twist to the Sonic series. Though I don't understand why Shadow is carrying a gun. I'm defiately going to get this game, even if it's worse than Heroes. Then again, I kinda liked Heroes....
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 10, 2005 18:13:42 GMT -5
Hey everyone. I'm sure a handful of you may remember me... from way back when. I've been extremely inactive for the last many months, however, lol. I was sidetracked with other communities and such. I'm proud to say I'm still a strong Tails fan at heart. Anyway, the latest sonic-related news have inspiried me to come back and join in on the discussions. Let me first clearly state my opinion on this slightly more mature-themed move Sega is making. I think, in terms of the mass-population, this is an incredibly smart move. This Shadow project fuses the fast-paced platforming of Sonic's games with the intense shooting action of.... ehm, Sonic Adventure 2's shooting stages or Ratchet & Clank? Point of the matter is this: the general population wants this. The widely beloved world of Sonic the Hedgehog needs to show some slightly more mature themes here and there. In terms of this new direction Sega is taking, I'm a bit skeptical. Sure, this more mature-oriented direction is everything I could ask for, but it may damage the "suitable for everyone" atmosphere that Sonic once called its home. It's actually quite odd, actually. I wanted something like this to happen so badly, but I'm sort of anxious to see how things turn out. Hopefully Sonic's image won't be destroyed in the long run. One thing's for sure, in the short term, Sonic will now have a wider audience. Hmm... I'm thinking too deeply into this...! THANKYOU!!! Someone that has the sameish opinion has me. I really don't have a clue of what could happen in the long run, but I believe that its a 50/50 split. You know what would make me go "no way" If this Shadow game was T for Teen. THEN I would know Sonic Team is maturing. I really don't care if its E though. If its M, then Sonic Team went WAY far on this game. I'm not supporting this game 100% like I did with other games. It's too early to make a semi-jedgement on it. Until then I will just keep up with the info. Its been spreading around online and Im interested in knowing about it. I don't know about this game that well. i can't view the trailer still. Don't say that "this game will make Heroes look good" You DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME YET! DON'T JUDGE IT SO QUICKLY!! Don't be so buyist about this. It's still NEW! Wait until MOST INFORMATION is out. Then judge it. Anyway, ^__^ Its really nice to see ya back Tails, hopefull you can be here more often, you're really cool! xD We haven't seen you for a while. |
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Post by DigiTails on Mar 10, 2005 20:00:09 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]Hai, I agree, "M" would be a bit too much for this new game.
Anyways, yes if this game is a bit more mature than the normal sonic games 'twould be good. I'm tired of the no blood, no death stuff of Sonic games. They are good none the less...just a bit childish I guess? I have seen a "T" Sonic Team game, so they can do it a bit more mature than the usual Sonic Game.
I know things are a bit different in that universe than in the Sonic Universe, but I dunno if they would make the gun a one shot kill. I highly doubt that if it is just a pistol, it will be only one shot to destroy a robot. Then again, it might.
Also, for character choice, why not Shadow? Nothing against Tails, but shooter game + cute and very innocent fox = no good. Shadow is, as someone up there stated, I think, a semi-dark character (and if no one did, here I am stating it). So why not use the badass characters in a more mature games? And if they put Tails in at all, he would be either with Shadow with whatever he's doing and killing stuff, or be opposed to Shadow and get seriously injured. I dunno, but I would prefer Tails to be out of the picture for this game, and stay out of the mature games until he is a bit older and more mature himself.
And what's wrong with maturing the games a little? Heck, most Sonic fans are teenagers, not little kids like it used to be, and they need to mature it a bit more to keep their audience's interest.
From the description, it seems to be good, but I won't voice an opinion on it until I can actually get more info on this game, unlike some other members, like actually seeing the clip or something else.[/glow]
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Post by Marik on Mar 10, 2005 22:20:09 GMT -5
If he has a gun, knowing the ESRB it'll be Teen by freaking default, don't think it's gonna be actually mature.
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Post by Teepo on Mar 10, 2005 22:53:22 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with maturing sonic games, but why the use of guns? That is the laziest thing they can think of, there's nothing really wrong with this game, I just think shadow doesn't deserve his own game yet, and I don't really care if they make Tails his own game, all they need to do is give all the (good)characters better parts in the story, and better abilites. There's no need to add EVERY sonic character, Sonic,Tails,Knux, and Shadow alone would make the perfect sonic game, give the other chars parts in the story, but we don't need to play as all of them!
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Post by Tails on Mar 11, 2005 18:07:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the warm welcome... ehm, warm welcome back...!
Am I the only one who liked Sonic Heroes? Man, I was so addicted to that game at the time of its launch. Me and my friend would see who could beat the game 100% the fastest! Heh.
But honestly, I don't think I'd wanna see a Sonic Heroes 2. I'd much rather play a new Sonic Adventure game, or a whole new Sonic game all together.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say this game gets a "T" rating. I mean, he's carrying a GUN, and the gun's got REALISTIC sound effects... so even if he's only shooting robots, I wouln't expect anything less than 'Teen'. Although the game could get the new "E10" (ages 10 and up)... who knows?
It's set in stone... I like what Sonic Team is doing and encourage more of it in the future. Sure, I'm not saying Sonic and company should wield guns, I'm just saying these games could start having more action, maturish cut-scenes, etc... maybe even a romantic love scene (that doesn't mean anything TOO extreme, lol) between Rouge and Knuckles?
Ehm... long story short, bring it on, Sonic Team! ::wears 'Sonic' t-shirt proudly::
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Post by PigsMayFlie on Mar 17, 2005 17:29:23 GMT -5
It's gonna be like Starfox Assault when its the shooting, one little shot will rip apart a machine even though its a little damn pistol. It'll be Sonic Heroes when its running, pretty simple and plain. This game will make Heroes look good, oh crap..... Sorry Nyiana I'm with Marik on this one This could be a disaster waiting to happen. Guns... one question Why? I mean the games are ok without guns (except at those points you want to blow Amy or Eggmans heads off) |
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Jun 15, 2005 7:58:39 GMT -5
I'm not happy about giving Shadow a gun (Although I agree with Pigsmayfly, I always wanted to shoot a few characters in the head). That's interesting... Sonic Team going in a whole new direction? I should hope they don't keep going in this direction, or they will lose many devout fans. OKAY, now listen carefully: I've been dying to see Sonic get a little more mature, but giving that Psychotic Shadow a gun isn't what I wanted to see! Characters dying is alright (really, every series needs something like that to shake things up and stir the emotions of the watchers.). But the idea of Shadow with a desert eagle (or whatever he has) kinda irks me... He doesn't need a gun at all. (If he needs to go long range, he has Chaos Spear) A game for Shadow is okay. I don't mind, except for the fact that SA2 was an EVEN BETTER IDEA (both Shadow and Sonic). My only question now? What is the plot going to be like? That's all I need to make all my troubles go away... a good plot. (Incidentally, chances are the reason this game is more mature is because of the amount of people that said a Shadow game would be bought by over 15s. Remember that Poll?) ALL YOU IDIOTS OUT THERE: At the end of SA2 it is confirmed that Shadow is actually a lot weaker than Sonic. In a totally fair fight, Sonic would trounce his artificial rip-off. Shadow's apparent death at the end of SA2 was because he wasn't strong enough to head back to ARK, and he even admits he is inferior to Sonic during the battle with Final Hazard. I'm not saying he sucks, because he is immensely powerful... but Sonic is more so. I don't like to refer to the comics, but Sonic holds his own against Shadow, Metal Sonic and an E-series robot... all at once. If Shadow is as powerful as his fanboys think, he could handle Sonic alone. I have a theory about Sonic and Shadow, but I'll post my postulations later (I had to , sorry). Maybe if we appeal DIRECTLY to Yuji Naka, he'll make us a Tails game!? A signature from everyone on the TAMB, and maybe a few more, might turn the trick? So long as the twits don't make it GCN unique or something stupid (Or worse, America & Japan unique.). |
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Jun 15, 2005 8:00:38 GMT -5
BTW, I loved Heroes, but I conceed its a bad game on the PS2. SA2 was infinitely superior to SH. SA2 should be the model they base everything on, like the plot, the character designs, the graphics, the level design... If they can, they can IMPROVE the model, but they should change it like this...
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Post by 2tails on Jun 15, 2005 12:04:44 GMT -5
I heard about this at the fallout shelter, Shadows supossed to have a gun o.O? I personally don't like shadow too much, the reason being all sonic noobs see him as the "cool" character and start ranting about how much better he is then sonic. EDIT: I just wached the video, the game looks ok, but with shado sarring in his own game no one will shut up about him now. I completely agree with your idea of Shadow, he is WAY TOO overrated  I think its pointless. And for those of you who have not noticed (which I am sure most if not all of you have) Shadow the Hedgehog is going to be released on all 3 consoles I was frightened to see Shadow having his own game. Then I heard word that the game was going to be made because of some poll on the sega site. Not to get off topic, but somewhere I heard "Big" got one of the higher ratings? What the he**?! If he won, the results would be disatrous imo., much worse than what we are seeing with this so-called "Shadow the Hedgehog". To get back on topic: As many of you have mentioned, yes, the idea of a gun is simply ridiculous. it sickens me |
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Post by Xen Zeratul on Jun 15, 2005 12:42:12 GMT -5
I think the reason why Sega is doing this... one of them being that the game seems like it's for young ages, so they want more ages to be pulled into the Sonic universe. It could be something else, I dunno, but that's what I think.
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Post by Marik on Jun 15, 2005 13:26:40 GMT -5
Sonic Tails Knuckles and Eggman are in this game. So there isn't just Shadow.
Sega of America is making Shadow, not Sonic Team. This game is looking better and better too. If They succeed, Yuji Naka has some explaining to do.
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Jun 16, 2005 7:38:30 GMT -5
OMG, that probably explains why there are guns (No offense, guys)!! Yuji Baka already has lots of explaining to do.
So, Sonic IS in this game. I wonder how much gameplay he's given.
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Post by Marik on Jun 16, 2005 23:11:21 GMT -5
He was in the E3 2005 trailer, he was in it for a second and he was hurt.
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Post by Xen Zeratul on Jun 17, 2005 0:12:34 GMT -5
Guns and Game-Mascots should keep the real weapons to the fanfic artists. Making it some official game of sorts seems... quite disturbing. I'd rather it was some sort of Sonic/Shadow fan game instead.
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Post by Lil Ninja on Jun 22, 2005 17:06:16 GMT -5
Hmm.. I feel like expressing my thoughts now too. When I first heard about this game, I was thinking that it might be interesting. It would be something new. Then looking at it more and more, I said to myself, Man, they're just trying to make a genre that's popular right now. I think that's a bit stupid. The more I think about it, the more I realize why I love the regular sonic games, and why i probably won't bother with this one.
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Jun 23, 2005 9:24:33 GMT -5
Now that I look at this game more it is repeating the genre, but i don't mind really. I'll buy this game anyway, if anything my boss will tell me to buy it. ^^ My boss is always telling me what games to buy and review and I like all that I've played. Anway, I think that this new game is really something that we've seen before only with guns. So yeah. I'll keep watching it but there really is nothing new about this game.
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Post by DigiTails on Jun 27, 2005 22:07:14 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]I'd like to get the game whence it comes out to see what it's like.[/glow]
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