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Post by Lil Ninja on Mar 10, 2004 20:18:50 GMT -5
wow, sounds like a big debate is going on here. so can i put in my opinion too?
I don't like Sonic Heroes as much as the other games which is odd for me cause i'm nothing more than a sonic obsessor. I don't know, but it doesn't really keep me interested. Yeah, i think they did do too much talking.
Having the characters from Knuckles Chaotix was really good. It gives us a little more variety in characters. (And Espio is cool because he's a ninja, heh.) But what about the fifth team? I wanna see Team Radical! They have the strangest names though. Is that team really a team because that's what I've gathered from gaming magazines.
Uh.... yeah, the whole team thing doesn't seem to be all that great. Yes, it is cool to have three people you control at the same time. But it's not that cool because it sort of hinders the abilities of the characters and what they can do. (like i miss having Knuckles climb up walls)
With Tails voice, i kinda liked his voice Sonic Adventure. I wish they stuck to that. (note for everyone. heh heh, in Sonic X, Tails' voice is done by the same person who does Misty and Jesse in Pokemon.)
I was hoping for another chao garden cause i love the cute little raindrop dudes. And I wish the game was a bit longer. I wanted to be entertained for days at a time.
ok..... that's about it i guess
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Post by Marik on Mar 11, 2004 0:30:40 GMT -5
This game should have more hard missions like SA2, they only have 2 for each level. And They shouldnt names the Teams starting with "Team" Like Sonic Tails and Knux isd the Triple Threat and Team Chaotix is just Chaotix or the Chaotix Detective Agency.
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Post by Morphed Chaos on Mar 11, 2004 6:56:23 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]I hear ya Marik, but have you tried super hard mode? now thats HARD[/glow]
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 11, 2004 16:38:48 GMT -5
wow, sounds like a big debate is going on here. so can i put in my opinion too? With Tails voice, i kinda liked his voice Sonic Adventure. I wish they stuck to that. (note for everyone. heh heh, in Sonic X, Tails' voice is done by the same person who does Misty and Jesse in Pokemon.) I was hoping for another chao garden cause i love the cute little raindrop dudes. And I wish the game was a bit longer. I wanted to be entertained for days at a time. ok..... that's about it i guess Misty's voice was done my Tara Jayne (or something like that) Who is not Tails' VA. That is Danny's. And I knew form months that there wasn't going to be any chao. I told my friend Steph who loves the Chao's and she was screaming "NO" Ok. Ive been quiet, but no longer I am goign to voice my opinion. Personally, I like Sonic Heroes, its something different. I respect the fact that Sonic Team tried, but at the same time I know they could of tried harder. I know also working on a few other games at the same time can be tough, but still. To tell you the truth Sonic Team put most of their effort into making PSO 3. I mean it was hte 2nd biggest thing in the Sonic media. With about 4 or 5 games being made at the same time, not at all easy. Its like working on 4 ot 5 different school projects at the same time and you have to get the best results you can. Its not easy. I agree with the fact that they should have different team names. But just like Capcom they arent very enthuseastic about names. Sorry for the bad spelling. And there is no Team Radicial or Team Metal or Team Super. Just a random rumour which a person started to become popular with the Sonic Fans. I did hear the rumours myself. Oh yeah. There is no Team Mario either. I know I brought the news over here, but it began over at ezBoards. I was expecting more with Sonic Heroes like the rest of you. When I heard the reviews they all got high grades, and they werent Sonic Fans. Then I looked at your opinions here, and you were being unfair. You were looking at all the negatives. Thats all you do, is look at and for the bad stuff in the game. The real reason why I like Sonic Heroes is because I am looking at all of the positive things within it. I can't belive that you guys are seriously dissing this game. You try being Sonic Team and working on several different games at once. I mean look at Bluey he makes Fangames ask him how hard it is and how much time it takes. Its not easy.
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Post by Marik on Mar 12, 2004 0:44:33 GMT -5
Who would be dumb enough to believe Team Sonic. And I'm dissing this damn game cause it one of the most disappointing game i ever played!
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 13, 2004 10:55:20 GMT -5
Who would be dumb enough to believe Team Sonic. And I'm dissing this damn game cause it one of the most disappointing game i ever played! Marik, your dissing it because you don't have the mind of a little kid anymore. Your in collage, your not supposed to really like this stuff. You are growing up, Sonic isn't. Nor will he ever. To tell you the truth Marik, you probably won't like anymore games. They are aiming at a younger audincene. Your above that, so am I. However, unlike you I can play little kid games and still enjoy them.
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Post by Marik on Mar 13, 2004 11:25:16 GMT -5
Naka should relize that his fans are like me who grew up with Sonic, not alot of kids really know the household name of Sonic.
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 13, 2004 16:49:55 GMT -5
Naka-San knows that! He knows the origional Sonic Generation is or already has grown up. I am apart of the origional generation like you Marik, but I am now only 13. I am still one of the younger fans. Dun Dun Dun its another WalMart Story! Ok while in walmart I was looking in the GBA section wishing I could buy the games. So, as I was looking a bunch of people crowded around the game cube. They were watching this kid play Sonic Heroes. He beat the level (Bullet Station) with a C ranking. Everyone was impressed. I said, "Hey, a C is nothing. Just watch this" So I challanged him. More people gathered around. I beat the level with an A ranking. All of the little kids came up to me and said that Sonic was the coolest, and that they wish they could play like I did. Their parents bought them games. And within 10 minutes 8 different copies of Sonic Heroes were sold. That was for all 3 stations.
You see, Naka-San wants the origional Sonic Generation to get a new Sonic Generation going. Basically, he wants us to get a younger generation interested into the series. That is what Sonic X is for!
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Post by Marik on Mar 14, 2004 12:46:53 GMT -5
.....while we get kicked to the curb
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 14, 2004 15:00:54 GMT -5
Naka-San has been trying. He wants the Sonic fans to become fans of the Phantasy Star Online series. Thats where he wants an older generation. He wants to create games for everybody. The younger generation gets Sonic, while the older generation gets Phantasy Star Online.
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Post by Marik on Mar 15, 2004 0:50:44 GMT -5
I have PSO 1, 2 and soon 3 but they're so boring
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Post by Guess Who on Mar 20, 2004 17:43:00 GMT -5
1) I appriciate that your new, but please listen to me. 2) Sonic is NOT Mighty. I think I know the story about Mighty's design so listen to my story. Back when Sonic was being designed (yes bakc in the feel the rabbit era) Sonic Team was trying to choose an animal. In the end there was 2. An Armadillo and a Hedgehog. There was character designs for both, but they ended up goign with the hedgehog. The armadillo was also used, but not until later as Mighty. 3)I know that! We were also talking about what if Sega just was gone. We were thinking who would claim Sonic? And our best guess was Nintendo. That is that story. 4) Wrong. Its is origional anime voice. I forgot the name of the VA, but Tails sounds a lot like he did in the 60minute movie. Trust me, I have seen that movie several times. Besides, in Sonic X Tails' voice is raspy becuase his VA is a female. She tried to pull of Tails but couldnt do it. And... here I go again. 1) The Mighty Issue Mighty is Sonic with different ears, black coloring, and red shell instead of spines. All of his animations fit perfectly over all the Crackers animations Sonic has. Even a "Wall Kick" animation for Sonic is in Crackers! Plus, Mighty is the fastest one in the game, thus I give him the title "Sonicopy". 2)Er... 3) Nope, 2 different people. The Anime's voice is MUCH higher. I have the movie and none of the voice actors in it did Heroes.
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 21, 2004 14:20:09 GMT -5
And... here I go again. 1) The Mighty Issue Mighty is Sonic with different ears, black coloring, and red shell instead of spines. All of his animations fit perfectly over all the Crackers animations Sonic has. Even a "Wall Kick" animation for Sonic is in Crackers! Plus, Mighty is the fastest one in the game, thus I give him the title "Sonicopy". 2)Er... 3) Nope, 2 different people. The Anime's voice is MUCH higher. I have the movie and none of the voice actors in it did Heroes. Hmph... it seems like I finally have a worthy adversary. However, no one topples ShadowFan24!!! 1) Once again..... I wil tell the story, however, it will be short. When Naka-San and Sega was trying to create a mascot, they came down to 2 different animals. A hedgehog and an armadillo. Sega had a vote in order which animal should be used. more votes went to the hedgehog. There was a design for both of hte animals. And that armadillo design just happens to be mighty. 2) Its common for a voice actor to have a counter name. Ex: Josh Seth... He can be known as that or another name. I don't remember... I didn't right it down. Anyway, I know that its the same VA. I am a voice actor as well, and I know what is what.
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Post by Guess Who on Mar 23, 2004 19:44:08 GMT -5
Hmph... it seems like I finally have a worthy adversary. However, no one topples ShadowFan24!!! 1) Once again..... I wil tell the story, however, it will be short. When Naka-San and Sega was trying to create a mascot, they came down to 2 different animals. A hedgehog and an armadillo. Sega had a vote in order which animal should be used. more votes went to the hedgehog. There was a design for both of hte animals. And that armadillo design just happens to be mighty. 2) Its common for a voice actor to have a counter name. Ex: Josh Seth... He can be known as that or another name. I don't remember... I didn't right it down. Anyway, I know that its the same VA. I am a voice actor as well, and I know what is what. Can't topple you, eh? Well, I sure can try 1)A Mighty Conclusion That is a given, however, I am merely trying to point out that MIGHTY IS A FILLER FOR SONIC. Anyway, the reason I believe Mighty isn't in Heroes is since he is strong, he could be power, and he is fast, so he could be Speed, and they deciced "Ah, who cares" and gave him the boot. 2)Voice Over Actor There is no way that is the same actor. The anime has a much higher voice. If that's the same actor, he must have been on a helium routine every day. I didn't topple you. I knocked you off the edge completely
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Post by ButterflyPenguin on Mar 24, 2004 3:10:24 GMT -5
I completely knocked her off the edge of the Simpsons Hit & Run topic, so it can be done. I think he should have at least made a guest appearance. Maybe Mighty & some other misfits (like Nack, Bean, Bark, Ray, etc.) will be in the sequel (I have a funny feeling there'll be a sequel, since Sonic Heroes was such a huge success). If they can bring back the old Chaotix characters, they should bring them back, too. I think it's nice that they put SH on all 3 systems.
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Post by ShadowFan24 on Mar 24, 2004 11:01:06 GMT -5
Can't topple you, eh? Well, I sure can try 1)A Mighty Conclusion That is a given, however, I am merely trying to point out that MIGHTY IS A FILLER FOR SONIC. Anyway, the reason I believe Mighty isn't in Heroes is since he is strong, he could be power, and he is fast, so he could be Speed, and they deciced "Ah, who cares" and gave him the boot. 2)Voice Over Actor There is no way that is the same actor. The anime has a much higher voice. If that's the same actor, he must have been on a helium routine every day. I didn't topple you. I knocked you off the edge completely Wrong! Im not over. In fact here you go! 1) The didn't have Mighty in Sonic Heroes because unlike the rest of the Chaotix he had 2 abilties. Speed and Power. They didn't need that. 2) Voice Acting isn't like you think it is. VA's can use one voice deepen it, and make it higher. How do I know. Reiko-Chan told me all of the Voice Overs Andrew Francis did. He keeps on using different voices. And so do I. I am not an official VA, btu I wish to be. I have many different voices. Even sadly an Espio voice. I would say more but now I am in school.
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Post by Guess Who on Mar 24, 2004 17:22:25 GMT -5
Wrong! Im not over. In fact here you go! 1) The didn't have Mighty in Sonic Heroes because unlike the rest of the Chaotix he had 2 abilties. Speed and Power. They didn't need that. 2) Voice Acting isn't like you think it is. VA's can use one voice deepen it, and make it higher. How do I know. Reiko-Chan told me all of the Voice Overs Andrew Francis did. He keeps on using different voices. And so do I. I am not an official VA, btu I wish to be. I have many different voices. Even sadly an Espio voice. 1) Isn't that basically what I said? 2)... Well, I would put in something right here, but I have to go watch Sonic Anime to confirm it, so I'll come back with this later.
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Post by Geno Soldier 12 on Apr 13, 2004 1:31:20 GMT -5
whats funny is. i turned fifteen yesterday, and i open the instruction booklet, and the day(which was my birthday) i buy sonic heroes, i find out sonic is fifteen in the story lol
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Post by PigsMayFlie on Apr 18, 2004 9:26:53 GMT -5
It should be just nintendo because the other systems have not been bringing out Sonic games. so why now?
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Post by SaphireFox on May 4, 2004 21:09:48 GMT -5
whats funny is. i turned fifteen yesterday, and i open the instruction booklet, and the day(which was my birthday) i buy sonic heroes, i find out sonic is fifteen in the story lol That's funny, I though Sonic was 16 though...hmmmm.....
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Post by Albino Fox on May 14, 2004 19:57:51 GMT -5
That's funny, I though Sonic was 16 though...hmmmm..... Yeah, it's kinda weird... it's as if, one way or another, Sonic's age and Knuckles' age got mixed up in the process of making its way to the Sonic 3 instruction manual. I can't imagine how a thing like that could happen though. But who knows; it's as good an explanation as any. Anyway, I love the game. It's hard to decide whether to call it my favorite or not, but I usually say it is. The idea of putting their powers together is something I'd been dreaming of for years, but I never dreamed it could turn out quite this great! Yeah, I guess it's my favorite. *Looks happily at the Sonic Heroes t-shirt he's wearing. * -Thank you Sonic Team for the free-with-preorder gift!-I managed to complete the final boss on all 4 stories, but I still haven't got good at the special stages, so we only have the first two emeralds. It'll sure be harder to get to the final story here than it was in the Adventures.
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Oct 5, 2004 23:24:41 GMT -5
What goes up, must come down, yet my feet don't touch the ground. See the world spinning upside down. A mighty crash without a sound.
I can feel your every rage, step aside I'll turn the page. Breaking Through your crazy maze. Like a laser beam my eyes on you.
Watch me blow the night away. Watch me save the day. Feels like a storm's getting close. Headed your way.
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
What you can't find you can find in your friends.
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
Setting the stage for a hero's parade.
I won't even hesitate. A second left to alter fate. I try to strike, but a bit too late. I got to look by my own name.
Watch me blow the night away. Watch me save the day. Feels like a storm's getting close. Headed your way.
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
What you can't find you can find in your friends.
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
Setting the stage for a hero's parade.
You can guess their ain't no doubt, as the words peel from the mouth. Of a hero! I can change another day, I'll fight through all the way. Like a Hero! And together we stand strong no matter how. No one can bring us down!
HEEEEEEEEEEY!
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
What you can't find you can find in your friends.
Sonic Heroes. Sonic Heroes.
Setting the place for a hero's parade.
Sonic Heroes. Heroes. Heroes.
Sonic Heroes. Heroes. Heroes.
Give us a reason and we're on our way!
That's VERY close, I think.
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Oct 5, 2004 23:36:28 GMT -5
I don't know what you guys think, but SH rules. The reason Cream can fly for the longest time isn't explained as such, but she can fly for so long because Team Rose is for little kids or game-newbs. Team Dark is supposed to be the hardest, and sometimes they are (to play as), because enemy are placed in REALLY annoying places. Team Sonic (My speciality) is arguably the most powerul team. Everything Team Dark has, but Team Dark's Chaos Control Team Blast is a waste of time. Team Sonic, however, have replaced that with Light Attack (SA2, anyone?) which OWNS enemies in its path. Team Chaotix is cool, but sorry guys: They are weak. Charmy has a weak attack, their team blast does less damage and has lesser range. The only good thing about them is Espio's invisibility, and their almost unlimited amount of team blasting ability.
Oh yeah. The special stages... (Crushes the keyboard) I remember them. Playing for 8 minutes through Bingo Highway just to fail at the darned Emerald Challenge?!?! Grrraaaagh!!
The final episode is worth it, though.
Sonic is 15 in heroes. Knuckles is 16, Tail is 8. I ALWAYS quote those ages when I'm asked how old one of these characters are. As for the voice actors, did some one say Tails' anime voice actor did him in Heroes? Er... no. The one in Heroes has not only got a higher-pitched voice, but you can tell he is younger and a better actor. Tails RULES in SH!
Whew! That was one long, boring post, huh? ;D
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Post by Marik on Oct 6, 2004 19:58:21 GMT -5
Team Dark's Chaos Control Blast Isnt a waste of time it freezes Time while damaging and in Sonic Adventure Sonic was 16 and Knux was 15 how did they switch?
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Post by Xen Zeratul on Oct 6, 2004 20:30:40 GMT -5
oh? Knux is 15? I thought i heard he was 19 or something, and Sonic was 16...
Everyteam has a special 'after effect' with team blast before the little meter drains away. Im not sure about Team sonic, but with Team Chaotix, theirs allows it so any other enemies they kill will give them a random number of rings, like hitting a randoming ring monitor!
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Post by XFox Prower on Oct 6, 2004 21:52:35 GMT -5
I never noticed that about Chaotix. I know that during the blast, you can get rings from seemingly out of nowhere, but I haven't seen anything else. Here's the other team's after-effect features:
Team Sonic: The Sonic Tornado is replaced by a different attack. If I remember right, it was a continuous homing attack or something similar. It works well against Egg Emperor.
Team Dark: Their Chaos Control not only freezes enemies, but it freezes the clock too! Use it Immediately when available. This is essential for a good time and rank when doing their 2nd mission in stages (Destroying 100 enemies).
Team Rose: They stay invincible for awhile.
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Post by Xen Zeratul on Oct 6, 2004 22:21:03 GMT -5
Yeah. All those techniques work great.
For Team Chaotix, its best to use their teamblasts in missions requiring rings. If you do it near huge groups of enemies, your gonna be getting rings and lives galore, especialy in those times when robotnik masses with loads and loads of enemies! (got exactly 391 in 1 shot!)
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Post by PigsMayFlie on Oct 16, 2004 7:30:48 GMT -5
Never noticed them at all
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Post by Krazed Kitsune on Nov 9, 2004 7:56:09 GMT -5
I'm writing a walkthrough for heroes, btw.
I know what Team Dark's TB does, Marik, and still think it's bad compared to the other teams'. Oh, its powerful, yeah, but just not as good, that's all. Team Sonic's after effect is that if you jump and press attack, instead of the Blue Tornado, you do 'Light Attack', which owns all enemies within range. Team Rose's makes them invulnerable AND gives them a shield. Team Dark' freezes time, meaning that doors stay closed and enemies don't drop down during skirmish boss battles like Robot Storm. At least, however, your timer doesn't keep going. Team Chaotix's? For every enemy you kill, depending on its value, you get a certain amount of rings. This is BS, because it means you can 'spam' Team Blasts. BTW, if you want to own the EGG EMPEROR, Team Blast him and use a level three Knux to spawn fireballs around him. He tends to get whacked a lot by them. Throw in a light attack if you want. Same with the EGG HAWK. Try it; you'll like it.
I don't wanna sound like an @$$hole, but there isn't much about Sonic Heroes I don't know, now. I've played it for WAAY too long, and since I'm doing a walkthrough, I've had to pay attention to little tricks I might be able to do.
I didn't know they'd switched Sonic and Knux's ages around, but to be honest I don't mind. Sonic, older than Knux? That is just unbelievable. Knuckles sounds twenty seven! I'm glad they realised that and made him older than Sonic.
Sonic is 16 in SatAM and probably 15 in Sonic X.
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Post by PigsMayFlie on Nov 9, 2004 10:45:38 GMT -5
Question. isn't team darks Tb called Chaos Inferno because thats what it says when you hit the help icon in the first level?
Team Dark I can say are my best because
more enemies= Higher score + more challenge (Duh)
ok if anyone didn't understand that then please tell me to shut up
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